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czar
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Unpopular opinion. Coinbase wallet as a farcaster client will not be meaningful for farcaster and is the wrong strategy for coinbase. It will hold back coinbase wallet in becoming the absolute best wallet experience out there.
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↑langchain avatar
Disagree only bc I don’t think wallets have a good reason to return. Social may or may not be a good reason to reopen the app
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czar avatar
can you explain what you mean by wallets not having a reason to refurn? are you implying they are not relevant already?
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↑langchain avatar
Wallets aren’t relevant to normal people I consider myself deeply embedded in crypto and I don’t actively want or need to use my various wallets or ledger
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czar avatar
I am sure, there are a segment of people for which it may not be as relevant. But I suspect that is not the majority in crypto.
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↑langchain avatar
I guess counter question - what do you use a wallet for daily?
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nir.eth avatar
hard disagree
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czar avatar
ok do you want to explain more why?
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nir.eth avatar
wallets need a way to differentiate, drive up transacting users, and increase retention. social features are a good way to do that. If a normie asks me how to get involved with crypto, I'd recommend the wallet with social features over the vanilla one. they're doing it in a way that doesn't require them to bootstrap their own content bc of fc. there are very few ways to get users to open a wallet daily and social is a good one
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nir.eth avatar
idk if it'll be meaningful for fc, hard to tell. hopefully
J. Valeska 🦊🎩🫂 avatar
I think can be good for miniapps, easy to have new users trying them if the wallet is a client itself miniapps and farcaster experiences are the trojan horse inside the cbw I see it this way
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I am coming from the pov of, wallets have a job to do - buy/trade/send/portfolio etc. is cbw doing a good job there? no. users won’t come to cbw for social. they come for the wallet. that experience has to be world class first. we can make the best wallet and make it the best social experience - at least to me, at this stage - is focusing on too many things. which is essentially not focusing on anything. if users are coming for social they may as well just go to farcaster. if users are coming for wallet there are so many options out there which provide a far better experience already and are constantly improving.
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J. Valeska 🦊🎩🫂 avatar
got the point and makes sense to focus on offer a world class wallet first, then add features but the thing that I love the most about cbw is the recommendation of crypto products, I have spent more time exploring them than trading in cb ( I use other wallet for that, what may prove your point and mine at same time 😅)
Garrett avatar
Every wallet is integrating more social features (phantom, metamask, etc) I think the social wallet vision is one that could easily evolve into an everything app but I agree that the core wallet experience in Coinbase Wallet needs to improve and they’re actively pushing on this front too, not just social
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czar avatar
Social in wallet will be a thing. But I suspect won’t be a major thing. More than anything I bemoan the lack of focus. I want coinbase to be the absolute best onboarding experience for normies. Social can come much much later. I won’t be convinced that they can do that working on everything.
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jp avatar
have you played around with it yet?
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No, not yet. Talking more meta.
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Lack of focus on the highest priority (aka onboarding normies) in an extremely competitive space where Coinbase has already dropped the ball pretty badly over the last few years.
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Oƚƚι🏴‍☠️ avatar
Coinbase wallet would make onboarding normies easier that’s the catch, a wallet with a social graph/feed that provides retention.
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czar avatar
why would a social graph make it easier to onboard normies in a wallet? what are they looking for?
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Matthew Fox 🌐 avatar
wallets as they were sucked for 99% of users Definitely a market for just being the best wallet but it's market is 1% of users I like tims take
Unironically bullish on Farcaster as a major winner in the Ethereum ecosystem. I've been complaining about the awful UX of Ethereum wallets for years. Farcaster seems to be on a reasonable path to fix UX in Ethereum wallets. Why would anyone use another hot wallet than Farcaster in 3-5 years?
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