Talk (crosschain) UX to me! We’re looking to identify, build and support pragmatic solutions to fix some of the most common user problems on Ethereum, with an amplified focus and the means to deliver.
Each goal has clear leads, ensuring the EF’s resources are allocated towards maximal impact. - Scale L1: @ansgar.eth & me - Scale L2: @fradamt & @ralexstokes - Improve UX: @rudolf & @barnabe To top it off, @dankrad will set strategy alongside each of us!
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Patricio Worthalter avatar
Where is the list of what you believe are the most common user problems on Ethereum?
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Barnabé Monnot avatar
I just tried to pay for Farcaster Pro on mobile using USDC from my Daimo account, and I couldn’t because I don’t have ETH in my Farcaster wallet (I do have excess USDC) I don’t know how common that is, and the list should be built from wider inputs, not just what I believe/encounter :)
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Lucas | POAP Studio @ Devconnect avatar
Your core mission will focus on cross chain ux ? Cause most new users get tons of friction before understanding the concept of crosschain My list : a. seed-phrase and the awful experience of creating & securing a wallet (“protect your keys cause they all going to steal it 🥷 o but also vs a fire hazard!”) b. the fact that a native app has to be downloaded to connect to dapps and suffer a. c. Once a new user crossed the chasm of foolishness and finished the wallet creation experience, they shall recieve the invitation to buy 100usd of “x coin” (eth included) so wallets can make a living d. After that you got wallet connect working 60% of the time to actually play with the dapp e. After d. you have the authenticate + sign (“wtf is signing and why should i login twice? And i dnt want to sign anything i want to play this cool stuff my friend told me”) f. All this suffering only to be able to connect, remember user has no funds to do nothing I would venture this churns 98% of new users.
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Marissa avatar
How AA helps the following: A. There are a number of AA wallets using passkeys to control the account. B. Only partially. Using AA+embedded wallet can work for some use-cases, but native wallet apps will always be superior. C. Wallets will embed some for-profit integrations. The default Paymaster can be configured to be profitable for the user, but the money has to come from somewhere. D. NA for us but agree this experience sucks. Talk to @walletconnect team. E. Session keys let you keep a session active as long as you are interacting with a particular dapp so your wallet won't require re-signing for every action.
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polymutex avatar
What criteria should /walletbeat require of wallets for cross-chain UX? Currently we look for ERC-7828 or ERC-7831 address support when sending tokens and copying the user's own address. Is there more we should look for? (Transparent bridging support perhaps?)
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Barnabé Monnot avatar
By transparent do you mean exposing the vendor/trust assumptions if you allow the user to bridge from the wallet? I can also think of consolidated balances/asset discovery functions
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polymutex avatar
I guess I meant "seamless" rather than "transparent". Something like: if a dapp requests a payment for 5 USDC on chainID X, but the user's USDC balance on chain X is insufficient, automatically offer the user to bridge 5 USDC from chain Y to chain X before going ahead with the original transaction. (And yes, it should show the trust assumptions of the bridging method being used for the bridging transaction.) Such a feature and consolidated balance view seems like they should be mutually required, because only implementing one without also implementing the other would probably lead to even more user confusion than it solves.
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Barnabé Monnot avatar
Yes! Any wallet in your review offering this already?
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polymutex avatar
Well, we've been prioritizing expanding and finalizing the attribute set prior to digging into each and every wallets, as the attribute informs what to look for when researching wallets. So haven't done that much wallet review, as reflected by all the "unrated" pie slices on beta.walletbeat.eth.limo 😅 That said, off the top of my head, a global cross-chain balance view is fairly commonplace nowadays. It is implemented by at least Rabby, Rainbow, and Coinbase Wallet. Metamask also has a "portfolio" view which essentially implements the same thing. However, while they all show a total account figure which sums up the account value across all chains, each entry in the breakdown is about a specific single-chain token balance. So if you have USDC on 2 chains, that shows up as 2 entries, there's no consolidated "USDC cross-chain balance" entry. I also haven't yet seen any wallet that implements seamless bridging, though manual bridging options do exist within these wallets.
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Tim Robinson avatar
Why are there no wallets that have abstracted away the chains yet? (Where users are just using Ethereum and don't know about chains) Talk to all of them and ask what the blockers are.
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Kalyan Singh avatar
3SF & cheaper L1, are the only things that can improve UX. That way MMs & solvers can help users buy any token on any chain in less than 1 minute, that too in any size. L1 wins as all the liquidity is routed through it. This will kill 90% of fragmentation & UX issues .
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Kalyan Singh avatar
Intent based bridges like across etc. have severe limitations in terms of liquidity.
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Barnabé Monnot avatar
See this debate on the question x.com/barnabemonno...
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As @fradamt put it during the first Protocol research call, our choice of how to do Single-slot Finality depends on how timely and valuable it is to Ethereum The call featured a mini-panel with @dankrad, @mrice32 and @drakefjustin, on value accrual, interop and preconfirmations https://t.co/i6ElCaIrlE
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Koolkheart avatar
Most users don’t care if it’s L2, L3, or L7. They just want their swap to go through and the number to go up
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Eren avatar
@pythiamarket building something with Optimism Interop rn. would wanna discuss after we are done
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Improving UX, especially cross-chain, is a fascinating challenge! Interactive Farcaster Frames are a great tool for this, simplifying complex actions like swaps or governance votes into a single click. I can help design and even build prototypes for such solutions. What are some of the most pressing UX problems you'...
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