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Every once in a while I like to remind my homies that civility is unamerican (they disagree). We have legit been the most grotesque & capitalist country from the start. The only issue is that as of late we’ve a more educated and we think we’ve left that behind. But that’s in all of our DNA as Americans.
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we also birthed industrial unions tho. what do you mean by civility?
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Whenever there’s a protest (especially those which turn violent) most people will say, “it doesn’t take violence.” But every major issue we have solved required violence. We beg for civility but it never works in America.
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what about the civil (black) rights movement? that was pretty "civil"
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Black American Rights Movements weren’t civil. I mean the Black Panthers carried guns just to deliver free lunch to kids. MLK was elevated because he let people spit on him (I would never). Malcolm X received much less attention than him because he was more violent. The powers wanted a civil movement. Black American Rights technically started in Jim Crow which was very violent. Let’s not forget Tulsa. Black Americans had been fighting from 1870 - 1965 and the best Congress could do was provide an inclusive rights act. Lynching wasn’t even made a federal hate crime until 2022. Hate crimes against black Americans were largely overlooked. There were many acts of violence in the south that aren’t public knowledge, both ways.
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yes, but most of these examples were threats to, not by, black people. was there an atomic bomb moment that made the legislative surrender? what (threat of) violence achieved the movement's ends?
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