A good day to migrate TG groups to Farcaster…

founder @ paradigm, board member @ stripe, building & investing at the illegible frontier

I love @dwr.eth and co, but I'd rather hold off until we have something that is end-to-end encrypted.

I also think that to get ecosystem-wide adoption, it should be federated, someone using one messenger should be able to talk to people using other messengers.

(the above is based on my understanding of nostr from when I tried it last year; if you tell me there's already an amazing solution to this problem, I'd be happy to hear that!)

Realistically, I'm not interested today because I don't want to have yet another private key to track.

If you solve that problem somehow (native social recovery? though not with secret sharing; you need the ability to expire old keys for security imo) then that makes it much more interesting to me.

what do folks think about nostr around these parts?

BDFL of Quilibrium, Eng @ Farcaster, ex-Coinbase, always opinionated, never hydrated

/quilibrium

Quilibrium, the decentralized MPC platform as a service

/quilibrium

is any project you know already building towards that?

@cassie have you thought of pushing @quilibrium in that direction?

founder @converseapp (acq) - building new stuffs

@vitalik.eth we’ve been hard at work really improving the app and now it’s time to let people in. We have secure e2ee groups and chats, on an open protocol for developers and users. 

We were going to start inviting people sept 1st, but with this latest news we need to start now. 

Want in? Message me shanemac.eth on converse, coinbase wallet or family app 

The time for decentralized and secure communication is now. Our lives literally depend on it.

Hey @shanemac.eth @pol does Converse support XMTP group chats yet? I'm still not seeing them, but also I haven't seen any app updates in three months.

I feel like we're *so close* to magical encrypted web3 messaging utopia. 🌈🦄

Come build the most secure and private messaging network in the world—owned by the people who build it and use it.

We need a decentralized & secure messaging app built for crypto.
Your messages. Your privacy. No phone number Built with @xmtp https://converse.xyz/ /converse

what do you think about @xmtp protocol, and @converseapp ?
good candidate?

Do you think @xmtp could be a valid option?

Pls see @xmtp @shanemac.eth that I previously mentioned in private especially your second point. 
Message portability already exists across XMTP clients and eventually inside apps too. That’s a big aha.

Isn’t signal that? 

We need a way to scale groups though

Matrix + Matrix bridges. Although I think the e2e story in Matrix is not that clear cut, there are some compromises on the group chat e2e

It is all messaging protocols anyway right? A universal standard messaging protocol that’s end to end encrypted should be easy to build, it’s getting everyone to agree on the fork ;)

encryption is a joke if your devices are compromised

You could build an e2e encryption layer on top of the Farcaster protocol. Honestly, I think Farcaster is the right balance between decentralization and usability.

Protocols that support multiplatform use are simply the best 🙌