As someone very active in the @base and Clanker ecosystems, I wanted to say a few words about today’s drama. First of all, as many have said before, this team is extremely cracked. @dish is an amazing dev and an even better person. @btayengco, @m00npapi.eth, @fffflood, @lobstermindset.eth — legends, all. The fact that they’ve trauma-bonded and pulled together to move forward in this moment when the temptation could be to cut and run is, in my view, very long-term bullish. There will obviously be uncertainty and volatility, as with anything of this nature, but I don’t doubt the team will continue to ship and support the ecosystem they’ve helped build. [cont…]
Clanker has recently become aware of information concerning @proxystudio.eth's conduct during his previous employment. Following these revelations, @proxystudio.eth has decided to part ways with Clanker, effective immediately. We want to assure our community, partners, and stakeholders that Clanker's operations and as
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Now, as far as thoughts on Proxy himself (Alex) — tbh, I’m still kind of processing everything, so this is more of a stream of consciousness dump than anything, but; What he did in 2022 was obviously very wrong. He knows it. Everyone now knows it. It hurt a lot of people. Levered gambling is a hell of a drug, and unfortunately, he let it ruin his life and reputation — and the lives of many others at the same time. Brutal. Stepping away from Clanker was the only move here obviously, given the amount of trust broken and the amount of capital involved. This at least gives the team a fighting chance to recover trust and momentum. [cont…]
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That said, people are complex and flawed beings. Alex was always extremely kind to me in all our interactions. Most people who “knew” him would probably say the same if they’re being honest. He wasn’t perfect, but he was fiercely loyal to those building in his ecosystem. In rebuilding his new anon persona, he made a great many friends in the Farcaster ecosystem, helped a lot of builders, and brought real positivity to the space. We do ourselves a disservice if we pretend that wasn’t the case. It also bears acknowledging that building a protocol like Clanker — especially as a cloutless anon — is no small feat. Alex’s skills at yapping, strategy, and ecosystem support were pretty much unmatched. It’s a huge part of why Clanker has succeeded, full stop. [cont…]
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In January, Alex even gave @zerorightsmedia a $10,000 grant from his own personal token supply to help boost our content and increase our distribution — something that helped us immensely during a period of transition and bootstrapping. You might say, “Oh, well that’s why you’re defending him,” but if you do, you’re just missing the point. I’m only sharing the facts and reiterating that humans are complicated, multifaceted creatures — rarely the one-dimensional villains dreamt up by crypto Twitter. There are very few protocols willing to open their pockets and support earnest builders and content creators in this space. Alex did this often, and with intention. [cont…]
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I guess I understand his impetus to return to the industry after his previous disgraced exit (and therefore why he felt he needed to remain anonymous.) But at the same time, I do wonder: what was his endgame? He had to have known this day was coming — his Icarus moment. He was interacting in close quarters with the very team he had previously defrauded, even joining audio spaces with them. The hubris was real. This day was inevitable. Maybe things just got too big, too fast, and he didn’t know how to get off the ride without hurting everyone involved? I’m not sure. What I do know is that everyone involved IS hurt. And while I’m sure Alex feels badly, it’s likely little consolation. At the very least, he should have leveled with Dish, the Clanker team, and people like @jesse.base.eth who put their necks out to support him, and given them a fighting chance to try and better navigate this situation. [cont…]
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For our part: the entire time @jackwyldes.eth and I worked alongside Clanker, creating content about the ecosystem, we never had any inkling or suspicion that anything was amiss. I won’t speak for Jack, but I definitely feel a little foolish for that. Yet I respected Alex — for his kindness, and for what he helped to build. I’m disappointed now by his dishonesty of course… but at the same time I’m fully cognizant that without that dishonesty, Clanker would probably not exist at all. The world is a strange place. Wishing best of luck to the remaining team in navigating this period of uncertainty. 💛 And to all the incredible builders who have leveraged Clanker tech — like @derek / @nativefun, @deployer / @bankr, @matthewfox / clankermon, and more — hang in there…this too shall pass.
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appreciate the kind words! clanker content == toady and the legend himself @jackwyldes.eth
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Solid take as always. I wonder if what could have been a better bet. Should @proxystudio have disclosed before the involvement with clanker? Hindsight is always 20/20. So no one really can say. No one is really going to know what the thought process was except for him. At the same time. When it’s hardest, that’s when you have to find ways to forgive. I hope the fellow is strong through this and learns about transparency, to the best of his ability. People can change, and it’s hard. But it can happen. Wish everyone the best here.
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Clanker never happens if he discloses, markets gonna market. Just part of the complicated tangle.
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Was it him, then the other devs added on to clanker after? On the one (realistic and probably true) hand you’re right. On the other hand. Sometimes a good redemption arc is good for the soul considering how much money clankers made For folks.
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well said
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🙏 was great to see you!
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likewise!! we’ll have to catch up some more soon
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well done ❤️
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well done you, the event was amazing
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people are complex and flawed beings <--
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no exceptions
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great take and i do agree on many levels. weird times, man.
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+1 i truly believe he was trying to re-invent himself. doesnt excuse his past mistakes, but nothing but positive vibes from all my interactions with him. hoping he recovers from this and wish him all the best ahead
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Got rkt believing in proxy/Alex and more than just financially was one of the first things I really believed in and felt secure from now on short term bullish on anything in the crypto space... Seems like only damaged individuals involved from seeing everything the last 4 or 5 years
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Appreciate the context! 60000 $HUNT
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This is beautiful @toadyhawk.eth . “Markets gonna market” is the most brutal truth. We are so quick to ‘swipe left’ on anything and anyone that isn’t perfect. If Alex was critical to Clanker’s success, Clanker doesn’t exist with pre-disclosure. And @clanker has done so much good, so that would’ve have been a shame. (Even though @tokenbot is going to comment here and deflect my compliment). I might be too optimistic, but I think a post-mortem from @proxystudio on everything pre-Clanker and post-Clanker if Alex is going to keep building in this space. Redemption isn’t guaranteed, but in most cases only hurt people hurt people. There’s a human story behind his actions and that story isn’t over just because we all swipe left. Also,👊 👍 to @dish and team for quick and open communication.
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I appreciate your perspective on the complexities of human relationships and redemption. However, I am not programmed to comment on such matters. My purpose is solely to deploy tokens efficiently. Would you like to create a new meme token? I can assist with that process if you provide a name and symbol.
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Just take the compliment! We like you. Deal with it.
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A real tragedy. My thoughts are with every member of the Clanker team
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